[DomLuka] sex

[DomLuka]

I know I

[NickolasJames8]

The only way you should have sex in the story is if you think it belongs.....you're the author, and I think that the reader should do just that....read. If it seems right to you, then yes. If it doesn't, then no Well, unless we're talking about a certain Grandma living in Nevada and a certain single guy living in Arizona Then the answer is always YES!!!

[TalonRider]

To me, sex in a story isn't always needed. Some authors think they need it but not all. There's one story that I read in which the author hints that something happened between characters. If the story is interesting enough to me, I'm satisified with that.

 

Other stories need it as it may be a part of a developing relationship in the story, case in point, DD with Rory and Seth.

 

In other stories, sex gets over used and doesn't add to it but begins to take away from it. In one story I've read, the authors used a lot of sex. Once they got past that and back to main plot, the story held my attention.

 

Still other authors use it as teaser in the story and this holds your attention. One such author here does that.

 

Well, unless we're talking about a certain Grandma living in Nevada and a certain single guy living in Arizona

Look out everyone, I do believe Nick has a thing for GRANDMOTHERS.

[NaperVic]

As it stands, there will be no sex in this story.

 

 

But what about Frank's threeway with David & Oliver?????

 

 

Obviously you're the author, this is your story, you take it where you want to. Yadda, yadda, yadda...< other miscellaneous fan kissing up to his favorite author supportive statements>.

 

Early on, when you said this wasn't a coming out story, I assumed that there would be sex. But that the sex wouldn't be as big a deal for the participants.

 

So while I'd 'like' there to be sex, if it's not part of the story, I'll survive .

 

<different tactic>

 

it

[VTicarus]

As it stands, there will be no sex in this story. ... I

[DavyReader]

Well - 2 thoughts spring to mind.

 

First. A story and its characters are both living things and evolve with time. If sex is an important component of a story it will find its way in when the timing is right. Now, if you are writing a bodice ripping potboiler, the more sexual detail the better. If you are writing a tender coming out story, sure something tentative and experimental is nice. (Come on - how many real coming out stories - other than my own - were REALLY gentle and romantic feats of sexual prowess?) But a relationship story with darker overtones may not lead to a sexual encounter.

 

Second. Sex can enter a story with as little as one sentence. It does not require, say, a blow by blow description. (Sorry, couldn't stop myself.) This is also why I prefer most British TV shows over American. (Hooray BBC in America!) The British shows actually assume you know a thing or two and don't spell everything out like you are reading a menu. The more a readers own imagination is active in a story, the better it will be.

 

C

I fully agree with that. A story doesn't necessarily involve sex. If sex happens, I don't require a graphic description. Depending on the story context, it might be preferrable for an author to concentrate on what the characters think and feel during the act instead. Or, he may just mention it in a few sentences.

[sat8997]

So let me see if I

[Jay]

Damn, who made the rule that every story with gay teenagers has to have sex in it?

 

Seriously, if you don't think that it belongs there then it doesn't. It is after all, your story.

[AudioAl]

After I'd read the first couple of chapters of TOSOM, I figured there was gonna be little or no sex in this story. (That's about the ONLY thing I could figure out about this tale.)

 

+++ Did I ever again think about the lack of sex in it? NO!

 

+++ Did I lose interest in TOSOM and quit reading it? NO! And I doubt anyone else (at least here at GA) did either.

 

+++ Have I anxiously waited for each new chapter to be posted...just like every other one of your stories? YES!

 

+++ Has TOSOM generated as much discussion in the Forum as your previous stories? YOU BETCHA!

 

BECAUSE, DOM, IT'S A FREAKIN' GREAT STORY --- JUST AS IT IS!

 

FORGET ABOUT THE "NO SEX" ISSUE - AND JUST KEEP UP YOUR AWESOME WRITING!

[abc]

What Sharon said.

Edited September 3, 2006 by abc

[PatrickOBrien]

I actually posted a similar question in Comicality's forum. i got a ton of responses, and the general consensus was that sex isnt absolutely necessary. here's a link to that page:

https://www.gayauthors.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=4836

hope that helps

oh, and I LOVE TOSOM!!! hehe i think you should keep it as it is. it wouldnt feel right if you added something you didnt think belonged, just to appease the fans looking for porn.

[Tazz]

As some of the readers here already said if there is sex in a story (not just this story, but in general) it does not always require full description of body parts and whatnot. If there ever was sex in TOSOM it could be just hints to what might have happened between characters, as this is not a typical relationship story.

 

BUT, you are the writer, and you will write the story the way you feel comfortable, and if that means no sex then it's fine by me. Sex is not the reason why I read this story, although I admit I'm a hopeless romantic and go all "ooh" and "aah" even when Frank and Oliver cuddle

[glomph]

As I think of the characters in TOSOM, I can't come up with a combination of any two that wouldn't be too freaky if they had sex, not considering the barely mentioned minor characters.

[NickolasJames8]

Maybe Mr Dron and one of the beheaded cats can get it on

[DomLuka]

Well, unless we're talking about a certain Grandma living in Nevada and a certain single guy living in Arizona Then the answer is always YES!!!

 

What??

 

Dom, who does not write grandma sex under ANY circumstances.

 

Thanks for the input, guys. I probably should have said that sex wouldn

[Moonchild]

I agree with all the people who said that sex scenes should only be in the story if the author wants them to be there.

 

I will also add that after reading tons of fanfiction and original fiction these days I tend to skim through sex scenes unless they are interwoven with the plot and really feel as a significant part of the story (next step in emotional proximity, resolution of old issues etc). It's not always the case, however, and more often than not sex is only there to keep the readers happy.

 

IMO, sex is never a necessary part of the story (unless it's porn, of course ), especially if the author doesn't feel it would be right to include it.

[johnM]

What Sharon says: Amen!

 

It's your story. Having read all of your stories thus far, I've never felt that the "sex scenes" were gratuitously put in just to tantilize. So keep up your standards and skills. I just marvel at all the discussion TOSOM generates! It's a great story as is!

 

John

Edited September 4, 2006 by johnM

[writeincode]

I also melt when Frank and Oliver just cuddle and kiss.... its so sweet.

 

Forcing sex into the story just to satiate porn-lovers will seem weird and out of character just as it does in so many Nifty stories when sex is introduced into the first or second chapter with a:

"Hi, I

[NickolasJames8]

Forcing sex into the story just to satiate porn-lovers will seem weird and out of character just as it does in so many Nifty stories when sex is introduced into the first or second chapter with a:

"Hi, I

[Bao]

it needs sex. its impossible to make a horror movie with hot young guys and have no sex.

[Eddy]

it needs sex. its impossible to make a horror movie with hot young guys and have no sex.

 

That gif image is sooooo KEWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MayaMys]

I absolutly can't stand most stories on Nifty, because face it, Nifty is a community for written porn with small amounts of plot. It's no place for amazing literary works such as yours, Dom.

 

Also, Oliver is like a little boy sometimes. Most of us think that him having sex would be super creepy (though I won't be surprised if others think it'll be kinky)...

 

Not to mention what will be going through my mind: "The morning after instead of Oliver, David was the one to wake up. Hilarity did not ensue. "

Edited September 7, 2006 by MayaMys

[NickolasJames8]

I absolutly can't stand most stories on Nifty, because face it, Nifty is a community for written porn with small amounts of plot. It's no place for amazing literary works such as yours, Dom.

 

Also, Oliver is like a little boy sometimes. Most of us think that him having sex would be super creepy (though I won't be surprised if other think it'll be kinky)...

 

Not to mention what will be going through my mind: "The morning after instead of Oliver, David was the one to wake up. Hilarity did no ensue. "

That would be kinda creepy...I'm not calling Oliver retarded or anything, but......

[adblue]

SEX.

 

Well, that got your attention.

 

Alright, this is gay fiction. So there's likely some mention that some guy likes other guys, along with showing what happens because he does like other guys. -- Or that some girl likes other girls... you get the idea. ...If you don't get the idea, read some of the quality stories here.

 

Sex is *a* defining characteristic for human beings, straight or gay or even if they aren't having any. A, an, one. But not *the* defining characteristic. I am more than just a gay guy, a lot more, I hope. He or she is a lot more than a straight person. If sex were all that defined a straight guy or girl, well, nice things would not be said about him or her.

 

So no, I don't think gay fiction is required to have lots of sex going on.

 

If anything, I think more stories need to show that there *is* much more to being a gay person than sex -- a lot more.

 

Some readers get the wrong idea that if they don't find the perfect romance with the boy or girl next door, or if they don't go out and have non-stop :whoopee: , then there's something wrong with them. -- Well, readers, you're not so different from the rest of us. -- And many stories (and authors) are very careful to show a full impression of real life, good and bad.

 

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Dom, others have said it here. You write your stories the way you want to write them. People read and like your stories because they're well written and you keep it pretty real. You write more about relationships, which are what's underneath any of the actions.

 

I'm glad you're trying something new with TOSOM. Do it the way you feel is best. What do we know, anyway? We're the audience. You're the storyteller.

 

Best wishes.

[C James]

My two cents' worth:

 

I'm bothered that people are writing to complain that there has been no sex, and that it should occur by chapter XXX at the latest. Ugh.

 

IMHO, it's your story, and that means you decide. If you want sex, put it in, if you don't, then don't.

 

As for my opinion on TOSOM, I think it's great, period, sex or no sex. But, I also think it shouldn't matter what I think. It's your story, tell it your way.