The Drop in Centre

[Brayon]

Since being back on GA, I've noticed on a couple of stories, it's like people are posting AI synopsis of the chapter/story. Am I wrong and just seeing something not there?

[chris191070]

Happy Friday All, hope everyone is keeping well.

Wel that's School finished till 1st September, 5 weeks off.

We go to Crete on 1st August for 2 weeks.

[Mikiesboy]

3 hours ago, Brayon said:

Since being back on GA, I've noticed on a couple of stories, it's like people are posting AI synopsis of the chapter/story. Am I wrong and just seeing something not there?

Could be .. chatgpt will write a whole story for you or a synopsis.  Just give it a few basics and it will pop out a story for you in no time.  

[Mikiesboy]

16 minutes ago, chris191070 said:

Happy Friday All, hope everyone is keeping well.

Wel that's School finished till 1st September, 5 weeks off.

We go to Crete on 1st August for 2 weeks.

very nice ... i sometimes wish we lived in Europe or the UK ... it takes hours for us to get anywhere here. lol   It takes over an hour to get downtown...longer to get to the airport. 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Mikiesboy

[Mikiesboy]

4 hours ago, Brayon said:

Since being back on GA, I've noticed on a couple of stories, it's like people are posting AI synopsis of the chapter/story. Am I wrong and just seeing something not there?

Here is a poem i asked chat gpt to write.. i said, write a poem about rain... 

Whispers of Rain

The sky lets slip a silver sigh,
A hush that falls from way up high,
Soft fingers tap on windowpane,
The gentle, sacred hymn of rain.

It dances on the thirsty leaves,
A lullaby the earth receives,
Each drop a note in nature’s song,
A rhythm pulsing all night long.

The puddles bloom on gravel roads,
Reflecting clouds in shifting loads,
While blades of grass bow low and still,
Embracing rain with quiet will.

It cloaks the world in silver gray,
And washes all the dust away,
A veil that dims the city's glow,
And teaches hearts to soften slow.

So let it fall, this liquid grace,
And kiss the earth in soft embrace,
For in the rain, we find release—
A tender storm that grants us peace.

 

What do you think of it?   It loves rhyme for sure.  

 

I asked it for a non-rhyming poem...   

When the Rain Comes

The sky bruises with shadow,
and the wind shifts,
lifting the scent of soil
before the first drop falls.

Rain does not ask.
It arrives —
urgent, patient,
a thousand small hands
tapping rooftops,
stirring puddles into motion.

The trees lean into it,
not resisting,
just listening.

People scatter,
umbrellas bloom,
a choreography of retreat.

But somewhere,
a child lifts their face,
eyes closed,
arms open —
as if the world has just remembered
how to begin again.

---

Let me know if you'd like it in a specific style (haiku, free verse, etc.) or with a certain tone.

 

It's rather scary what it can come up with... 

Edited July 25, 2025 by Mikiesboy

[Wayne Gray]

19 minutes ago, Mikiesboy said:

Could be .. chatgpt will write a whole story for you or a synopsis.  Just give it a few basics and it will pop out a story for you in no time.  

This is true. I used AI to help with a single scene (brain stuff is complicated!) and the thing wanted to write a whole story for me. I just cut out the rest and used the part I needed. But yeah ... it'd be easy to "write" a whole story using AI.

They're all over Nifty. I've gotten good at recognizing them, and they seem to take the same tired paths ...

[chris191070]

15 minutes ago, Mikiesboy said:

Here is a poem i asked chat gpt to write.. i said, write a poem about rain... 

Whispers of Rain

The sky lets slip a silver sigh,
A hush that falls from way up high,
Soft fingers tap on windowpane,
The gentle, sacred hymn of rain.

It dances on the thirsty leaves,
A lullaby the earth receives,
Each drop a note in nature’s song,
A rhythm pulsing all night long.

The puddles bloom on gravel roads,
Reflecting clouds in shifting loads,
While blades of grass bow low and still,
Embracing rain with quiet will.

It cloaks the world in silver gray,
And washes all the dust away,
A veil that dims the city's glow,
And teaches hearts to soften slow.

So let it fall, this liquid grace,
And kiss the earth in soft embrace,
For in the rain, we find release—
A tender storm that grants us peace.

 

What do you think of it?   It loves rhyme for sure.  

 

I asked it for a non-rhyming poem...   

When the Rain Comes

The sky bruises with shadow,
and the wind shifts,
lifting the scent of soil
before the first drop falls.

Rain does not ask.
It arrives —
urgent, patient,
a thousand small hands
tapping rooftops,
stirring puddles into motion.

The trees lean into it,
not resisting,
just listening.

People scatter,
umbrellas bloom,
a choreography of retreat.

But somewhere,
a child lifts their face,
eyes closed,
arms open —
as if the world has just remembered
how to begin again.

---

Let me know if you'd like it in a specific style (haiku, free verse, etc.) or with a certain tone.

 

It's rather scary what it can come up with... 

They are both good, scary that AI has written them.

[Mikiesboy]

1 minute ago, Wayne Gray said:

This is true. I used AI to help with a single scene (brain stuff is complicated!) and the thing wanted to write a whole story for me. I just cut out the rest and used the part I needed. But yeah ... it'd be easy to "write" a whole story using AI.

They're all over Nifty. I've gotten good at recognizing them, and they seem to take the same tired paths ...

yeah it has 'tells'  and i stopped using grammarly but it can check for those tells it seems.   I use a very good option that is an extension on firefox   https://languagetool.org/

I'm not sure if it can check or not 

Yeah i mean it's one thing to look for information another to have it write the whole damn thing. 

[CassieQ]

A lot of my coworkers use chat gpt to "write" their notes.  I won't use it.  If you don't practice a skill, you're more likely to lose it is my reasoning.  But my main one is that I'm afraid of the wrath of Skynet.  

[Mikiesboy]

1 minute ago, CassieQ said:

A lot of my coworkers use chat gpt to "write" their notes.  I won't use it.  If you don't practice a skill, you're more likely to lose it is my reasoning.  But my main one is that I'm afraid of the wrath of Skynet.  

You're right of course.  I was at a doctor's appt this morning.  He wrote notes on his computer while i sat talking with him.  With his own words and fingers. Amazing.  lol 

[Flip-Flop]

Does AI plagiarize? 🤔

[CassieQ]

6 minutes ago, Mikiesboy said:

You're right of course.  I was at a doctor's appt this morning.  He wrote notes on his computer while i sat talking with him.  With his own words and fingers. Amazing.  lol 

I won't even do that.  It's one of the main reasons I'm chronically behind on paperwork,  I don't like having a computer between me and my patients.   I'm being left behind as technology races forward and I'm fine with it.

[Mikiesboy]

1 minute ago, CassieQ said:

I won't even do that.  It's one of the main reasons I'm chronically behind on paperwork,  I don't like having a computer between me and my patients.   I'm being left behind as technology races forward and I'm fine with it.

You have to do you. I have a lot of doctors, many use computers and a few use paper. I frankly don't care as long things are recorded and correct and i get what i need.  simple as that

[Wayne Gray]

5 minutes ago, Flip-Flop said:

Does AI plagiarize? 🤔

It mines other works to produce its own. ChatGPT is well known and reviled for this.

They cried foul when Deep Blue mined ChatGPT directly for a lot less money (orders of magnitude less), but they have no leg to stand on, considering that's what they did to build ChatGPT.

Edited July 25, 2025 by Wayne Gray

[Mikiesboy]

3 minutes ago, Flip-Flop said:

Does AI plagiarize? 🤔

That's a good question. I'm no expert but I guess it does what we do, read other things and use them to write new works. 

I asked it that...   

No, ChatGPT does not plagiarize when writing stories, poems, or any other kind of content.

Here’s how it works:

• ChatGPT generates original content: It doesn't copy and paste from books, websites, or other texts. Instead, it creates responses based on patterns it learned during training on a wide range of publicly available and licensed texts.

• It does not "remember" exact documents: It doesn't store or retrieve copyrighted content verbatim unless it’s something very short and commonly known (e.g. famous quotes, public domain poems).

• You own the output: According to OpenAI’s terms of use, you own the content ChatGPT generates for you, and you're free to use it for creative or commercial purposes.

However, two important caveats:

1. Unintentional similarity: Sometimes, ChatGPT may produce text that coincidentally resembles something written elsewhere, especially for clichés or well-worn ideas.

2. Famous or public domain texts: It might include snippets from public domain works or very well-known lines (e.g. Shakespeare, Bible verses), which isn't plagiarism but can resemble quoting.

If you're concerned about originality for publishing or academic purposes, you can always run the content through a plagiarism checker to be safe.

[Flip-Flop]

4 minutes ago, Mikiesboy said:

That's a good question. I'm no expert but I guess it does what we do, read other things and use them to write new works. 

I asked it that...   

No, ChatGPT does not plagiarize when writing stories, poems, or any other kind of content.

Here’s how it works:

• ChatGPT generates original content: It doesn't copy and paste from books, websites, or other texts. Instead, it creates responses based on patterns it learned during training on a wide range of publicly available and licensed texts.

• It does not "remember" exact documents: It doesn't store or retrieve copyrighted content verbatim unless it’s something very short and commonly known (e.g. famous quotes, public domain poems).

• You own the output: According to OpenAI’s terms of use, you own the content ChatGPT generates for you, and you're free to use it for creative or commercial purposes.

However, two important caveats:

1. Unintentional similarity: Sometimes, ChatGPT may produce text that coincidentally resembles something written elsewhere, especially for clichés or well-worn ideas.

2. Famous or public domain texts: It might include snippets from public domain works or very well-known lines (e.g. Shakespeare, Bible verses), which isn't plagiarism but can resemble quoting.

If you're concerned about originality for publishing or academic purposes, you can always run the content through a plagiarism checker to be safe.

I worry that AI is also good at Bull S...ing  us also!

[Wayne Gray]

5 minutes ago, Mikiesboy said:

That's a good question. I'm no expert but I guess it does what we do, read other things and use them to write new works. 

I asked it that...   

No, ChatGPT does not plagiarize when writing stories, poems, or any other kind of content.

Here’s how it works:

• ChatGPT generates original content: It doesn't copy and paste from books, websites, or other texts. Instead, it creates responses based on patterns it learned during training on a wide range of publicly available and licensed texts.

• It does not "remember" exact documents: It doesn't store or retrieve copyrighted content verbatim unless it’s something very short and commonly known (e.g. famous quotes, public domain poems).

• You own the output: According to OpenAI’s terms of use, you own the content ChatGPT generates for you, and you're free to use it for creative or commercial purposes.

However, two important caveats:

1. Unintentional similarity: Sometimes, ChatGPT may produce text that coincidentally resembles something written elsewhere, especially for clichés or well-worn ideas.

2. Famous or public domain texts: It might include snippets from public domain works or very well-known lines (e.g. Shakespeare, Bible verses), which isn't plagiarism but can resemble quoting.

If you're concerned about originality for publishing or academic purposes, you can always run the content through a plagiarism checker to be safe.

you're right. It doesn't meet the criteria of "plagiarism". Too many legal challenges would destroy them, so they avoid the definition.

It uses other works (art in particular) to develop its "own" work. It's like tracing a picture, but altering just enough to make it your own. Not line for line ... but using common structures, and recycling them to produce something "new."

[Flip-Flop]

11 minutes ago, Wayne Gray said:

but altering just enough to make it your own.

But it is not really your own, is it? It may appear that way, but what will be the outcome in its/our future? I hate to think about it?

Edited July 25, 2025 by Flip-Flop

[Wayne Gray]

3 minutes ago, Flip-Flop said:

But is not really your own, is it? It may appear that way, but what will be the outcome in its/our future? I hate to think about it?

On Facebook there's a flood of AI bots. And they're mining each other's posts for content, and it's getting more and more and more weird and inhuman-sounding as time goes on. I find that reassuring. The "uncanny valley" is working against AI in this case. We can tell that something isn't quite right with the responses, and the more AI relies on AI to produce content, the more it will resemble gibberish. It's like a weird electronic incest without a brain to produce new content.

Edited July 25, 2025 by Wayne Gray

[Mikiesboy]

31 minutes ago, Flip-Flop said:

But it is not really your own, is it? It may appear that way, but what will be the outcome in its/our future? I hate to think about it?

i couldn't publish either of those poems as my own, even though i asked for them.  The only word in there that's mine is 'rain'.  

i've been rather loathe to write much of anything considering what people are looking for and at.  i'm kinda paranoid and put stuff on word to check if my work sounds like someone else's

[kbois]

I've never used any AI to write. I'm pretty sure my brain is skewered just enough to come up with some interesting stuff. Some days it frustrates me, other days it scares me. Lol

But at the end of the day, if I've managed to write anything I consider it a win. 

[Mikiesboy]

1 hour ago, Flip-Flop said:

I worry that AI is also good at Bull S...ing  us also!

yep.. fake news    You have to be super careful about what you read and trust. 

[Brayon]

5 hours ago, Mikiesboy said:

yep.. fake news    You have to be super careful about what you read and trust. 

And what you watch and listen to. There's a whole new genre on YouTube of AI create songs. Everything from the vocals to the music AI created, and you can have it sung by your favorite artist.

[Brayon]

7 hours ago, Mikiesboy said:

It's rather scary what it can come up with... 

Agreed. Both of those were good, but wow.

[Wayne Gray]

"I feel like we could make it go quicklier."

YouTuber teaching me new wordies.